Comments for Jon Loomer Digital https://www.jonloomer.com/ For Advanced Facebook Marketers Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:00:33 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on A Stable Marketing Strategy for Unstable Times by Illya Protasov https://www.jonloomer.com/stable-marketing-strategy/#comment-27939 Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:00:33 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47591#comment-27939 Hello Jon. Thanks for the great article! In addition to the trends described above, I also can recommend a few goodies for improving marketing strategy.

The type of social media content that converts best is content that sparks interest and engages viewers. This can include anything from high-quality visuals, to interactive quizzes and polls, to educational blogs and videos. Additionally, highly targeted content focused on specific customer personas can also be effective for conversions.

Popsters tool is perfect for analyzing the content of competitors (and reaction of subscribers) in popular Social networks. It allows you understand the passions of the audience and find the most popular content.
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It can easily help you to analyze any pages in more than 10 popular Social media and find out the most popular and commented publications, calculate the indicators ERpost and ERday. You can easily filter and sort posts (publications) using multiple filters.

You'll be able to compare any page over by more than 25 metrics in graphic form and learn how to improve engagement and marketing strategy.
I hope it will be useful

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Comment on Meta Ads Conversion Results: A Guide by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-conversion-results/#comment-27936 Fri, 10 Jan 2025 18:20:59 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47452#comment-27936 In reply to amykirst.

If you consider it unlikely, the next thing I’d check to see if the event is set up properly and deduplicated. It may be counting twice.

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Comment on Meta Ads Conversion Results: A Guide by amykirst https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-conversion-results/#comment-27935 Fri, 10 Jan 2025 17:22:58 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47452#comment-27935 I have a conversion that is set up to record the purchase of a product (a specific event ticket purchase). This event that I'm selling occurs over one weekend, and it's unlikely that someone would attend multiple times in that weekend.

The attribution is set at the default of 7 days. The purchases result column is showing 125 purchases of that event. But the 7-day click first conversion column is showing 57 purchases. I'm wondering what this means. Based on your blog post, I would think 57 people were responsible for 125 transactions that included this event ticket. But that seems unlikely, given the cost of the event, and the few number of repeat buys that we see in our ticketing software. Am I misinterpreting what the first conversion column means?

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Comment on 6 Targeting Mistakes Advertisers Make by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/6-targeting-mistakes-advertisers-make/#comment-27930 Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:37:41 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=43650#comment-27930 In reply to Jae.

It’s worth testing to find what works for you. It can also be an annoyance to customers who already bought the product if they keep seeing the ads for weeks or months.

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Comment on 6 Targeting Mistakes Advertisers Make by Jae https://www.jonloomer.com/6-targeting-mistakes-advertisers-make/#comment-27929 Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:23:36 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=43650#comment-27929 What do you think about not excluding one time purchasers from ads as they often leave good social proof in the comments section?

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Comment on Meta Ads Conversion Results: A Guide by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-conversion-results/#comment-27917 Tue, 07 Jan 2025 10:03:45 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47452#comment-27917 In reply to Prashant Yadu.

Bad math on my part. It should have been 28-day click (24) minus 7-day click (13) , which is 11.

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Comment on Meta Ads Conversion Results: A Guide by Prashant Yadu https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-conversion-results/#comment-27915 Tue, 07 Jan 2025 01:33:18 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47452#comment-27915 Hi Jon,

Is the below shared statement is correct or I am getting confused?

2. 12 conversions happened beyond 1 day but within 7 days of clicking the ad (24 minus 12).

I am not getting where this 12 is coming, whether it is from "View" or "click" attribution. Please help me.

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Comment on A Guide to Audience Segments by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/audience-segments/#comment-27911 Mon, 06 Jan 2025 12:13:44 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45966#comment-27911 In reply to Waqas P.

This setup is far from ideal. Why would you define your Engaged Audience as those who engaged during the past 30 days? It should be the widest net possible. All Website Visitors during the past 180 days. There’s no reason to eliminate some of the engaged people based on page or those beyond 30 days. Then the overlap is easy. If they bought something during the past 180 days, they are an Existing Customer.

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Comment on A Guide to Audience Segments by Waqas P https://www.jonloomer.com/audience-segments/#comment-27910 Mon, 06 Jan 2025 00:13:55 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45966#comment-27910 Hi, I have a quiestion regarding the audience, I understand in case of overlap it will assign the lower funnel to the audience. What I am confused with is How is the new/prospect audience assigned

Audience Segment is defined as follows
Engaged
– All Visitor, Product Viewers, Add to Cart | 30d
Existing
– All purchaser 180d
– All Purchaser customer list lifetime

Now anyone who is visiting and purchasing for the first time will end up doing the engaged tasks and existing task, what is the cutoff or how frequently does it checks the audience segment.

TIA

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Comment on 9 Ways Meta Can Improve Advertising in 2025 by Renan Kabariti https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-can-improve-advertising/#comment-27879 Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:16:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47409#comment-27879 John, this is super insightful, and I agree with most of what you said.

The only part I’m still grappling with is when you argue that the lack of audience controls:

"shouldn’t be a problem when optimizing for purchases. If Meta can get you more purchases by ignoring your inputs, that’s a means to an end. (…) I’ve seen this become an issue for leads, too, though it isn’t always. Meta can dedicate a high percentage of my budget on people 55+ because it results in cheap leads. But I’ve also found them to be low quality.

The same can be true with customers even though they paying you upfront! I've run a lot of studies on my clients and it’s not uncommon to find that certain demographics—while having a lower CAC on the first transaction—can come with significantly lower LTV, higher return rates, increased support costs, and other less-than-ideal outcomes.

Don’t get me wrong—I’m fully on board with the idea of leaning on the algorithm and letting it do its thing! That said, I do think we, as marketers, often have access to critical business insights that the algorithm simply can’t consider. For that reason, I feel Meta needs to give us back just a bit more control to help steer things when those nuances come into play.

Oh, and number 10 on my list would have to be the ability to break down Flexible Ads results by creative. I get your point on caring more about the end result and not the creative details, but flexible format is such a practical way to launch and test creatives.

It's super frustrating to add 5-10 very different creatives for a sale event and not be able to tell my creative team which ones worked better so we can iterate on the best concepts on the next big sale and leave the losers behind.

By the way, happy New Year and please keep working on your content, you're one of the best guys around!

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27878 Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:13:18 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27878 In reply to Robert.

Probably still a view-through at that point, but who knows?

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Robert https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27877 Tue, 31 Dec 2024 08:53:58 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27877 So what about that kind of conversion – you scroll your FB/Insta feed and not click anything but touch the area within the ad (eg. the photo of the ad) – I hope it does not count as a click-through, because that would be insane as it' almost impossible no to touch the ad on a mobile device like a smartphone.

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Roel van de Mortel https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27860 Fri, 20 Dec 2024 04:51:59 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27860 Great insights Jon. I am a little bit shocked as it would mean that ads with high engagement would collect click sales much easier as ads that have less engagement but are actually very good at getting quality traffic to your website.

Would you think that clicks within carousels, to go to the next image, would also be counted for click sales in this case?

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Rachel https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27848 Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:00:47 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27848 Our account is really struggled with the majority of conversions from prospecting down to retargeting and retention going to 1-day view. We've switched our attribution this year to 7d click to get a more accurate depiction of our ROAS. It's such a challenge to get clarity as well as improved correlation between Meta & GA4.

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Comment on A Simplified Meta Ads Strategy for Optimal Results by Nick Graff https://www.jonloomer.com/simplified-meta-ads-strategy/#comment-27843 Tue, 17 Dec 2024 08:25:52 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45197#comment-27843 Hopefully this article is getting a lot of organic traffic cuz this clears a lot up.

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Comment on The Evolution of Who Sees Your Ads by JOY1 https://www.jonloomer.com/the-evolution-of-who-sees-your-ads/#comment-27841 Tue, 17 Dec 2024 02:17:28 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=43798#comment-27841 How about priming new ad accounts with no previous customer data? Will adv+aud work for that? Also, with Adv + Shopping campaign, will I need a retargeting campaign?

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Comment on Meta Campaign Objectives: Best Practices by Philip https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-campaign-objectives-best-practices/#comment-27840 Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:27:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=39331#comment-27840 Hey Jon,
Thank you for the great article, it made things a lot clear to me! I have spent over $4000 on Lead campaign ad, selling a service that is offered on a Telegram channel. What I've made is a landing page with information and a button to join the Telegram channel. Meta Pixel is set with a 'lead' event upon button click. However, cost per lead is pretty high (over $1.5 per lead) and most of the people who join the channel don't even convert. Do you think an Engagement campaign would be more efficient in my case? I am not looking for instant conversion, as people need some time before they decide to get access to the service. Thank you again!

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Comment on How to Determine Your Facebook Ads Budget by Aurimas G https://www.jonloomer.com/how-to-determine-your-facebook-ads-budget/#comment-27836 Mon, 16 Dec 2024 07:58:50 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=37029#comment-27836 Is This Still Relevant Today?
(Considering this article was written three years ago)

In summary, the advice suggests creating a daily budget that matches the highest CPA you can afford so that the campaign successfully exits the learning phase. Is this still accurate today? (What are the current rules regarding the learning phase?)

Additionally, regarding the section titled "You Have Options": Are these approaches still widely practiced? For example, using remarketing with the "Reach" objective and similar strategies.

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Comment on Set Up Meta Conversions API Gateway Using Stape by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-conversions-api-gateway-stape/#comment-27825 Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:09:17 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=42600#comment-27825 In reply to Evа.

I can’t tell you for sure about the necessity of that, but I did have my tech team get that sorted out.

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Comment on Set Up Meta Conversions API Gateway Using Stape by Evа https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-conversions-api-gateway-stape/#comment-27824 Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:36:23 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=42600#comment-27824 Hi, Jon,
Thank you for the great guide.
Is it necessary to configure DNS, as the following message is highlighted in yellow at the top of the page:
"Custom domain setup has not been completed for (account) Complete domain naming system (DNS) configuration for this account to help improve performance."

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Comment on Common Ad Set Optimization Mistakes Advertisers Make by Nick Graff https://www.jonloomer.com/common-ad-set-optimization-mistakes/#comment-27812 Wed, 11 Dec 2024 06:40:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=43411#comment-27812 In reply to Jon Loomer.

Wow! Very helpful! Lots of intel packed in here. Thank you so much Jon!

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Comment on Common Ad Set Optimization Mistakes Advertisers Make by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/common-ad-set-optimization-mistakes/#comment-27807 Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:06:34 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=43411#comment-27807 In reply to Nick Graff.

Hey, Nick. Affiliate ads are always challenging, but I don’t hate what you suggest. Of course, it wouldn’t be a Traffic campaign if you are going to optimize for the button click. Instead, you would use either the Sales or Engagement objective with the Website conversion location, then select that event you’ve created for the button click. I would then make sure to change the attribution setting in the ad set to 1-day click. It’s not guaranteed success, but it’s certainly worth trying.

As for the awareness campaign along with middle funnel ads, you should always experiment. But I’d caution you that unless this is for a high ticket offer, everything beyond that primary campaign could end up being a waste of money. Just be sure to monitor it.

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Comment on Common Ad Set Optimization Mistakes Advertisers Make by Nick Graff https://www.jonloomer.com/common-ad-set-optimization-mistakes/#comment-27802 Tue, 10 Dec 2024 06:08:46 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=43411#comment-27802 As an affiliate, I want to send traffic to my landing page and then send them to the vendor's sales page. Knowing that the vendor's sales page converts very well and that the product is an impulse buy… could it make sense to use traffic objective and optimize for button clicks from my landing page?

My theory is that I am sending data back that is more unique than what most of my competitors are sending back, who are optimizing for purchases… which means i am signing up for cheap remnant traffic. I know that the quality of traffic is lower, but that doesn't matter because the vendor doesn't care how many people make it to their sales page. The purchase qualifies them. And I will be tracking ROAS, to make sure that I am profitable.

By the way, I am also planning on using an awareness campaign to introduce myself and a big middle of funnel audience with lots of compelling content that subtly leads to a landing page visit.

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Comment on Meta Ad Library: A Detailed Guide by Dawood Ahmad https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ad-library/#comment-27793 Fri, 06 Dec 2024 03:01:33 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45012#comment-27793 I am only seeing ads data till March 2024. How do I access older ads? I know the company had run ads before that. For another brand, Clarks UK shoes, I can see ads from December 2023, but not before. I think meta does not keep 7 years of record for ads. What you say!

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27779 Wed, 04 Dec 2024 18:56:52 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27779 In reply to Adrijus Guscia.

I don’t think it’s something to be fixed. It’s just something that should be made clearer. There are improvements that can be made from there, but this is intentional.

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Adrijus Guscia https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27778 Wed, 04 Dec 2024 18:27:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27778 This makes me trust FB ads even less, esp. with AI bidding.

Highly doubt it will be fixed. :(

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Comment on Recommended Aspect Ratios By Placement for Meta Ad Creative by Barney Townsend Music https://www.jonloomer.com/recommended-aspect-ratios-by-placement-for-meta-ad-creative/#comment-27777 Wed, 04 Dec 2024 12:41:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47096#comment-27777 Hi Jon – I hit a small snag with this technique this weekend.

I created an Image Link for a blog, using the 4:5 ratio on Feeds as you suggested (I also provided images for 9:16 and landscape placements). That meant that there was no square crop available.

Whan I went to Page Posts > Ads Posts in order to post the ad to the wall, even though the image was 4:5, it cropped the image as an awkward square when posting to our wall. There was no 4:5 version available in Page Posts at all.

The way around this would be to create a square version too and provide that as one of the placements, then post that on Page Posts. I can't see Facebook rectifying this bug, as they are sunsetting Page Posts.

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Comment on Recommended Aspect Ratios By Placement for Meta Ad Creative by Periklis Gatsoulis https://www.jonloomer.com/recommended-aspect-ratios-by-placement-for-meta-ad-creative/#comment-27770 Wed, 04 Dec 2024 07:27:22 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47096#comment-27770 What about ratios for product images, in order to show on 4:5?

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Fábio Prado Lima https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27756 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 12:51:01 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27756 What a great finding, John. I've been running facebook ads since 2011 as well, and didn't know that, until now. Thank you.

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27763 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 10:47:24 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27763 In reply to Fábio Prado Lima.

Glad I’m not the only one! It’s somewhat embarrassing, but I’m also confident that the vast majority of advertisers think the same thing.

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27762 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 10:46:54 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27762 In reply to Angela.

The conversion event fired when someone clicked a specific button on my website (which is irrelevant to click vs. view, which is determined by ad interaction). There weren’t any view-through conversions in this case, but that’s reflective of those converting being active participants in the experiment. There were surely other view-through conversions, but not for this specific event.

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Miguel Bravo https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27761 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 10:11:48 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27761 Thanks for sharing.]]> Wow! Been doing this awhile, and did not know that. Clever experiment 👏🏼 Thanks for sharing.

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Angela https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27759 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 07:03:49 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27759 Hi Jon super interesting – I am curious – assuming thi is right – Meta would be then attributed based on Click All Metric (i.e. a click anywhere on an ad regardless of a URL being present) – instead of click unique or click link metrics. – on your experiment, I can see that the conversion was all for clicks – did you have anyone who did not click the link and went to the page – (view 1-day atribution with no interaction whatsoever on the ad – apart from an impression/view) I am curious to see if you had any results for this. – Thank you this was a ver helpful article! Best Angela

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Comment on Uncovering the Reality of Meta Click Attribution by Andreas Schou https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-click-attribution/#comment-27755 Tue, 03 Dec 2024 04:58:20 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47152#comment-27755 Awesome post with useful insights. Thanks for share these experiments.

In my clientes we always compare real CRM leads with those reported by META. Its usually close to 10% error margin with 1-day-click attribution, which seems acceptable. Adding automatic UTM parameters in all ads with information about Campaign, Adset, placement and platform, helps us tracking back sales that happens offline by phone.

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Comment on Recommended Aspect Ratios By Placement for Meta Ad Creative by Paul https://www.jonloomer.com/recommended-aspect-ratios-by-placement-for-meta-ad-creative/#comment-27730 Wed, 27 Nov 2024 07:51:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47096#comment-27730 Im not sure, but from old experience I think that when using 4:5 Single Images on Meta, the CTA won't work with those. Or has this changed?

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Comment on Recommended Aspect Ratios By Placement for Meta Ad Creative by Firoz Khan https://www.jonloomer.com/recommended-aspect-ratios-by-placement-for-meta-ad-creative/#comment-27729 Wed, 27 Nov 2024 04:54:53 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47096#comment-27729 Very impressive

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Comment on Recommended Aspect Ratios By Placement for Meta Ad Creative by Margit Streifeneder https://www.jonloomer.com/recommended-aspect-ratios-by-placement-for-meta-ad-creative/#comment-27727 Wed, 27 Nov 2024 02:10:09 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47096#comment-27727 Thanks Jon for this great overview. Just yesterday I struggled with understanding what the best image and video specs for Facebook Ads are… glad to know that it's Facebook itself who causes the confusion. ;-)

QUESTION: Which formats do you suggest to upload for the new "Flexible Ads" option? Is it best practice to create and upload images and videos in all recommended sizes?

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Comment on 3 Times You Should Prioritize Remarketing Over Meta’s Algorithmic Ad Targeting by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/prioritize-remarketing-over-metas-algorithmic-ad-targeting/#comment-27683 Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:19:53 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47050#comment-27683 In reply to Cody D Martens.

When your purchase happens offline, you’re limited in terms of options. Just be keenly aware of the risks and weaknesses involved. If you optimize for link clicks, landing page views, ThruPlay, engagement, etc., the algorithm is prone to searching out the best ways to get you the most actions at the lowest cost. That’s often going to be low-quality actions. So you are feeding your remarketing funnel with low-quality actions.

Always test and be aware of weaknesses.

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Comment on 3 Times You Should Prioritize Remarketing Over Meta’s Algorithmic Ad Targeting by Cody D Martens https://www.jonloomer.com/prioritize-remarketing-over-metas-algorithmic-ad-targeting/#comment-27678 Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:05:32 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=47050#comment-27678 You say to avoid soft remarketing which involves creating a TOFU campaign to feed the BOFU campaign. But what about someone like me who is just starting to advertise, doesn’t have a lot of data, AND my purchase happens offline (high-ticket service converted by a sales person).

I still thought it wise to run a campaign with content (videos, blog posts), then retarget those people with a stronger ad (buy now).

If that’s not the case, how do we do it? Do we just dump all of the ads into one campaign and ad set?

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Comment on Meta Ads Benchmarking for Personalized Insights on Performance by Eric Richard https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-benchmarking-for-personalized-insights-on-performance/#comment-27677 Tue, 19 Nov 2024 02:15:05 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=40649#comment-27677 Nowhere to be found.

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by Sudip Chatterjee https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27657 Wed, 13 Nov 2024 17:28:56 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27657 What if we make the custom event comprising of 3 ti 4 actions like , 1 minute on the site and 70% scroll, internal link click all mixed into one event. Will FB try to accomplish this action? Lets assume they try reaching the older age and it didn't get enough events will it try knocking other age groups to maximize the volume within the budget.

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Comment on Location Expansion: Meta Advertising to Reach Travelers by Mirpur Escort https://www.jonloomer.com/location-meta-advertising-travelers/#comment-27656 Wed, 13 Nov 2024 09:00:57 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46480#comment-27656 Your post was such a refreshing read! I love how you delve into with both depth and clarity, making it accessible and engaging. The insights you shared are not only thought-provoking but also incredibly practical. Looking forward to more of your writing.

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Comment on A Guide to Audience Segments by Mirpur Escort https://www.jonloomer.com/audience-segments/#comment-27653 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 23:17:26 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=45966#comment-27653 Your post was such a refreshing read! I love how you delve into with both depth and clarity, making it accessible and engaging. The insights you shared are not only thought-provoking but also incredibly practical. Looking forward to more of your writing.

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27644 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 20:50:46 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27644 In reply to Abold.

No, that’s not going to work. Meta can’t report on conversions in that case, so the optimization for delivery will be confused. There unfortunately is no good or easy solution for this situation.

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by Abold https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27643 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:47:08 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27643 This is the clearest explanation of the issue I've ever read–thank you!

One question: If you're driving people to an Amazon page, you can't install your own pixel. Do you trust the "maximize conversions" goal in those situations?

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by Abold https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27642 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:47:08 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27642 This is the clearest explanation of the issue I've ever read–thank you!

One question: If you're driving people to an Amazon page, you can't install your own pixel. Do you trust the "maximize conversions" goal in those situations?

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by Benjamin https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27639 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 13:04:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27639 Great read and interesting topic, Jon. And agree you should be very clear about what your goals are. But in my opinion there's another flaw, and strikingly for purchase campaigns. Imo meta audience expension is counter-productive for finding new customers and almost overrules exclusions or excisting customer cap (asc campaigns are most effected by this).
It's complex to find real prove for this, but in our campaign there pretty strong indicators incremental budget is going to existing customers and not new.

I know you're not fond of 2-step campaigns, but I'm setting up a traffic campaign now with exclusions and no audience expension to target new web visitors, so if will feed my conversion campaigns better with an engaged – but still new customers – audience. Any thoughts on this?

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27641 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:04:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27641 In reply to MH.

That’s different because Meta isn’t trying to get you a specific action. So there aren’t any built-in weaknesses that it can exploit, as far as I know. But, of course, that doesn’t necessarily make optimizing for reach better.

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by Jon Loomer https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27640 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:04:43 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27640 In reply to MH.

That’s different because Meta isn’t trying to get you a specific action. So there aren’t any built-in weaknesses that it can exploit, as far as I know. But, of course, that doesn’t necessarily make optimizing for reach better.

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Comment on Meta Ads Targeting and Optimization’s Fatal Flaw by MH https://www.jonloomer.com/meta-ads-targeting-and-optimizations-fatal-flaw/#comment-27638 Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:18:50 +0000 https://www.jonloomer.com/?p=46990#comment-27638 What if your performance goal is optimizing for reach within an awareness campaign?

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